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Roman Cav. IV-V Century AD by Fall3NAiRBoRnE Roman Cav. IV-V Century AD by Fall3NAiRBoRnE
Roman Cav. IV-V Century AD
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I disagree to a certain extent. Okay sure they were Romans but that part of the Empire lost its original cultural hub that was Italy and Rome itself, so to a certain extent it was an offshoot of the Roman Empire centered around Constantinople. Constantinople was its own cultural hub. In a way I see it as an exported offshoot of the Roman legacy which outlived its creators in the west. Think cell division when a cell splits into two, it retains many of the characteristics of its parent cell, but its still not the original cell.
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Spatharokandidatos Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
 There is no Byzantine Empire , there was only one Roman Empire which ended its total run in 1453. They were Romans, they considered themselves Romans, they officially called their nation Roman empire. Stop. This is history these are facts!
The Greek language does not mean they were not Romans. This is cultural fact, it's normale that the culture of the eastern part was Greek since the capital was in Greece. I can admit to divide the empire in western or eastern part and is not totally correct and accurate
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SolidSamurai Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2014
So the late roman empire had cataphracts?
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Fall3NAiRBoRnE Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2014
They sure did.
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SolidSamurai Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2014
They look exactly like the byzantine cataphracts.
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AMELIANVS Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
"Byzantine" IS Roman!Their equipment is that of late antiquity but it was many times changed in details in later centuries and during medieval times.
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SolidSamurai Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014
I don't think they had cataphracts in the west in the late imperial period. 

Also, the byzantine split was occuring as far back as the end of the 6th century, but that's a discussion for another day.
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AMELIANVS Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
If you look on my profile you might discover that I know what Im talking about.Real ubiased History is not about what anyone think from his personal opinion and personal reasons but about evidence facts which are not colored by anything other.Every single piece of equipment you see in the painting is archeologicaly known and classified and I can give you informations about it.They had cataphracts also in the west and it is no problem to prove it to you with actuall historical evidence of all sort.First Roman cataphract regiment was already founded by Emperor Hadrian during early second century and we even know this regiment by its name.What you see here are later cataphracts as Emperor Constantius II reformed them after Persian Sassanid model.

And as for the "Byzantine split"-this is only artifficial split a conception that was fabricated from very biased reasons 100 years after final fall of the eastern part of the Roman state.No one had ever call them "Byzantines" or the"Byzantine Empire".They rightly called themselves the Romans and really were by all legal and historical rights direct and uninterrupted continuation of the Roman state(who significantly changed many times before during its long history).For example in England term "Byzantine"Empire was for the first time only used in 1857 and it was never fully accepted by all scholarship because of its artificiality and biased reasons for its creation.By now fortunately this Byzantine terminology is already in decline and more and more often criticizied in works of contemporary scholars.
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SolidSamurai Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014
Dude, all I'm asking for is sources, I don't need a fucking spiel on the definition of bias.
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AMELIANVS Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Why that need for being vulgar?
Your previous comment says nothing about your desire for sources.But I can give some to you if you are really interrested to not let you think I only tell you something which is not true.
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